Michigan Camp Meeting 2017

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Michigan Conference of Seventh-day Adventists

Redemptive Discipline: Concept & Application

Royce Snyman

Redemptive Discipline: Concept & Application- Part 1

Redemptive Discipline: Concept & Application- Part 2

Redemptive Discipline: Concept & Application- Part 3

Redemptive Discipline: Concept & Application- Part 4

Redemptive Discipline: Concept & Application- Part 5

Father in heaven, I want to thank you for this opportunity we have to meet together today and to study this very important topic that affects our churches in a significant way.

I pray that your Holy Spirit will be in charge of what we do and that we will clearly see and understand the principles that the Word of God gives to us in the spirit of prophecy in relationship to working on behalf of people who are struggling with the problem of sin in their lives.

This is the class on redemptive discipline.

I'm saying that mainly for me because the last class I had all these folders out already and it turned out that was not the right class to be teaching.

Sorry, I just got really busy and got in my head that I was teaching this class second period instead of third period.

You all here for redemptive discipline, right?

Okay, then you're in the right place and I'm in the right place.

I want to tell you a little bit about what we're going to be doing and the material that you have in your in your hand.

You have a notebook that looks like this, a folder by which you can keep the materials that I'll be giving you.

They're right here and if somebody would just take 1 back to them, that'd be great.

I could make you move but I'm a nice guy so I won't do that.

Now inside here, let me tell you what's in here.

First of all on the left-hand side is the notes for today, the outline for today, which is entitled The Concept of Redemptive Discipline.

We'll be using it extensively today as part of what we're going to be doing.

Behind it you will find an evaluation, which if you're going to stay for the whole 5 days, I would encourage you to hold off on that evaluation until we get done.

And so I'd appreciate that and I'd encourage you to stay for the 5 days.

We're building each day and dealing with the issues that apply to redemptive discipline.

We'll share some of the basic concepts today and then talk, especially tomorrow, about more of the application of those principles and work on that from there.

Behind that is some blank notebook paper that looks like this, and it's just notebook paper that's lined and something you're able to use.

I have included today which is something we are not going to refer to in the sense that it's not the major content of what we do, But it is some handout of materials, and by the way, Joe, you don't have to hold that.

You can set that down there and you're good.

You're just controlling what's happening with that.

I didn't want you to get tired of holding it, that's why I'm saying that.

I went online and I looked for some information out there in relationship to discipline.

I found spiritual discipline, redemptive discipline, And I found some interesting articles here that came out.

The 1 that's here, this 1 came out in the Admirist Review.

But at any rate, Dan Cern is the author of this and his title is, Is Church Discipline Still Needed?

Dan happens to be a personal friend of mine.

We went to school together and he's serving right now as coordinator of evangelism in the Texas conference and doing a wonderful job down there.

But he wrote this article here, and I encourage you to read it.

It's not a very long 1, but it does help you to understand the value and the importance and the need for discipline in the church.

We'll talk about what kind and all of that as we go through this.

But also I found somewhat fascinating about some articles that come from non-Adventist sources because we think of a lot of Protestant churches especially as being liberal and they don't care about what anybody does and so on.

There are a lot of good Christians out there and I'm not going to them for my source of my theology, but I did find some value in relationship and I just wanted you to understand that even in the Seventh-day Adventist Church, whereby there are some who have moved away from the idea of discipline in the church, There are those who recognize not only the importance of it, but the value of it, and the fact that it will help to build a church and strengthen the church, not damage the church.

Of course, doing it the right way, and that's 1 of the articles that is here.

And so there's several of them here, and 1 of them is about discipleship, really, I mean, discipline, really works.

It's by an individual whose article and material I will give to you later on in the week.

That author is, is named Ken Sand, and he wrote a book called The Peacemaker, and it's a really excellent book, not just dealing with discipline in the church, but dealing also with solving people's problems and interactive combat that goes on in churches from time to time.

And really, He has some excellent material.

He's not a Seventh-day Adventist, but he's a Christian lawyer who has applied this in his own law practice and in his own church in helping people deal with conflict in the church.

And redemptive Discipline and discipline in the church sometimes does deal with the issue of conflict and so it will be a part of that as well.

So just wanted you to be aware of the material that's in there and what it's there for.

Now I want to get us launching into our class for today.

I'm gonna share with you the scenario that's in your material as we are looking at the issue of what discipline, redemptive discipline is, the concept there, and then we'll eventually in the next 4 days be working towards application.

Alright so you have your material and if you turn to the first section there you're going to find that there is a scenario and I'd like to read through that scenario with you right now, and we're going to discuss it just for a couple of moments.

It's gonna set a stage for us for our discussion.

I'm going to read it because of the microphone.

I'd actually rather have somebody else reading it, but because we are taping this, I want to make sure that that scenario gets recorded on here.

So, by the way, This class material, the basic foundational material, was originally developed by Elder Jay Gallimore, and he shared it with us as pastors some years ago, a lot of years ago, while I was still pastoring, and that was a lot of years ago.

And I was able to say, wait a minute, that's just what our church needs and what a wonderful thing to have in terms of principles and implemented it in the church that I was pastoring at the time.

But he's given me permission to teach this class along with him.

I've done that before and also to teach it as part of my role as Ministerial Director for the conference.

So I'm sharing some of the material that he developed and then I'm adding to it and giving you modified materials along the way.

Here's the scenario that I want you to think about for a moment.

He is a gifted with an enthusiastic leadership talent.

He's 1 of your elders and the General Sabbath School Superintendent.

His wife is not a member of the church, but does attend fairly often.

Who tells you with reluctance that she has suspected her husband of being interested in another woman.

She tells you that through a private investigator she has evidence he has been having an intimate affair with a woman at the local spa.

I don't mean push the pause button, but pause what I just shared with you.

You notice that it didn't say that the head of the board sent out an investigator, right?

This was a wife concerned about her husband.

She is not a member of the church, and that private investigator brought back evidence.

We are not investigators, and we're not detectives.

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Redemptive Discipline: Concept & Application

Redemptive Discipline: Concept & Application- Part 1

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