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Michigan Conference of Seventh-day Adventists

Islam & Christianity

Daniel Scarone

Understanding Similarities & Differences- Part 1

Understanding Similarities & Differences- Part 2

Understanding Similarities & Differences- Part 3

Understanding Similarities & Differences- Part 4

Understanding Similarities & Differences- Part 5

Father in heaven, thank you for this moment in which we are dealing with a study and comparison between Muslims and Christianity.

Be with us in our presentation and also in outreaching them for the Lord Jesus.

Because Father, this is the main reason of our study here.

Be with us and bless us in Jesus' name, amen.

Yesterday, when we finished, there were some people that approached kindly to me.

And besides the evaluation that normally they perform regarding the presentation, They suggested that we continue doing the presentation in this way if it's possible.

That first of all, we do the presentation, and at the end, if there is time, we are going to open a kind of place for questions and answers.

Because Some of the people that talked to me yesterday said that sometimes some questions or the intersection that the presentation takes after some of the questions guide the presentation in a different direction.

And sometimes the main point is losing or getting loose at the end.

So my suggestion is that several of you made me some very good observations yesterday, especially Cindy, and I'm going to mention and amplify that in the review today, because it's good to share, because by the way, as a presenter, I am very aware of, I don't know everything about the subject, and sometimes we need to interact and be open regarding the topics that we are presenting, especially when we are doing this with different cultures and so on.

Because I've been a pastor for 40 years so far, and in different places, and I've been in touch with several other movements.

So let me do a review, general review, of what we were talking yesterday in the general presentation.

When we are talking about Islam, because yesterday at the beginning, we were asking if the Muslim religion or Islam is a movement like any other movement, like Catholicism, Pentecostals, and so on.

And it's not, because basically, Islam is a theocratic regime.

And this is not from my point of view, it's here.

Islam says it's a heavenly system or regime for all the dwellers of the earth.

And it is a mighty treasure if only mankind realize its authenticity and truth.

Well, I have questions regarding these 2 last things.

However, it's very clear it's a regime and a heavenly.

They answer to Allah, so Allah reveals in the Quran and also in the Hadith that is a tradition.

Yesterday we were explaining about what is the Quran and Hadith, And I'm going to shortly review that.

The Quran is the most sacred book in the Muslim religion or Islam, and is like the equivalent of the Bible.

And if you put another, our movement is like the Book of Mormon, in Mormonism.

And by the way, we do some connections and we are going to make them more extensive in 1 of the presentations in regarding a comparison between the Muslims and the Mormons, and you are going to see fascinating connections among them.

Revelation through an angel, their own book, and the message to all the world, by the way, and with several other things that we are going to compare about that, without avoiding polygamy, of course.

So the second point that is important, it is that the Muslim religion or Islam is coming after Jewish and Christians and absorbs elements from both of them.

So we are going to take a kind of connection with a religious movement that is, in certain sense, indebted to the Jewish and also to the Christians.

But sometimes they didn't use copyright quotations about them.

There are no notes or something like that.

However, we are going to see, and I'm going to explore that probably between tomorrow and Thursday, that there is also an influence coming from other sources than that.

And some, for example, like Apocrypha post-New Testament, or pseudoepigraph writings.

Pseudoepigraph, when we are talking about, pseudo is the Greek word for false epigraph writings.

Like, for example, some of the Timothy gospel or something like that, or the gospel of James or something like that.

There is a letter of James, but not a gospel, you know, and that is pseudoepigrapha, the word that they apply for that kind of apocryphal writings post-New Testament like there were some saying in the Old Testament.

We are going to refer about that in detail more advanced in the presentation.

Quran quotes and refers to the Bible with no specific.

They are not going to say, you know, this chapter and verse, but refers to the Bible.

But it's important to know that the Bible doesn't quote the Quran.

So dependency is coming later, but not before.

And please take into account that, Because if you keep that in mind, it's good for the argumentative and apologetics that you are going to apply in the future.

And some of the things that are important, yesterday we were surveying a little bit how much you know about Islam.

We asked if there is conversion, repentance, pardon, and baptism.

A submission, yes, to Allah and the Prophet, but no repentance, no conversion, no baptism.

No new creature inside the Muslims, and no commandments in the Islam.

They say that there are commandments, but you are not going to quote or see the structure of the 10 Commandments like it is in the Bible.

Because commandments, and probably my friend here is going to help me much more, what we are going to say, because commandments in the Bible influenced the legal writings in our society.

Probably in all the Western judicial system, you are going to see that the commandments establish a pattern of influence regarding the law, regarding the Western country laws.

And that is something that is missing in Islam.

And we were talking yesterday, I'm not going to repeat that, but they are expanding in the Middle East, they are expanding in Europe, they are expanding in Latin America, and they are expanding here in USA.

And I've been telling yesterday that the expansion in the Middle East is something that is fascinating because they not only demolished completely all what is a resemblance of Christianity in the Middle East, But when you cover the space and time in which the former Christian churches were located in the Middle East, they were completely taken and blotted out for history and for the future.

And that is important to take in count because when they put their own culture upon that, the past doesn't exist any longer.

So yesterday, my friend here, Cindy, helped me, and I'm going to share with you this that I've been looking in the internet, and this is a good fruit of the seminar, because interaction always is good.

Yesterday we were talking about September 11th, and I guess who was, Jay Friday night, or who, Saturday morning, that asked us, asked us if we remember where we were on September 11th.

And I, until today, I can say where I was.

I was crossing exit 110 when I received a phone call from my daughter, she was doing the master degree at Andrews University, and she say, dad, they are attacking the Twin Towers.

And I say, I can repeat the complete dialogue.

And the next channel and the next channel were saying the same thing.

And Jay was, because he said, we were with superintendent meetings.

And that's right, in those days I was part of that, even though I was in an arbor.

And we all, quietly, with not knowing what to do, because we were in Lansing, and everything was happening far away, We were watching that and asking us what we can do for that because it was destroyed and after destroyed in that day.

Every 1 of you, I can say, you are going to remember that day and where you were, of course, because it was a big damage.

But yesterday, Cindy told us, if we know the reason about September 11, and researching about this, There is a place, if you have your cell phones and it's kind of a smart phones and you can check on the internet, there is a place called, and the title is, The Top 4 Reasons September 11 is Significant to Islam.

The Top 4 reasons September 11 is significant to Islam.

The top 4 reasons September 11 is significant to Islam.

And you are going to find the first is what she told us yesterday.

That is a kind of situation with the Battle of Vienna that happened on September 11 and 12 of 1683 that happened that.

The siege of Malta that happened in 11, September 11, 1565, and also happened in 1609.

It's September 11, 1609, is the moment in which Spain decreed the expulsion of the Muslims from Spain.

You know, there are places, I don't know if, There are places in Spain that call my attention because a few, what I will say, kilometers out, Madrid, there are reminders of several cultures together.

When you go, for example, to Segovia, Segovia is a very small population outside Madrid and you are going to find that there are an aqueduct from the times of Rome.

And it's still in place, the aqueduct, very big 1.

But also is the Alcázar, and that is not Spanish word, and that is not a Roman word, it's not Latin, that is Arabic and that is the time in which there were in that time in Segovia.

So the stylish of the city you are going to see a picture of the times around from Rome to Christianity.

So, okay, thank you very much for your help.

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