Michigan Camp Meeting 2018: As a Witness, Matthew 24:14

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Michigan Conference of Seventh-day Adventists

Be Filled with the Spirit

Daniel Scarone

Be Filled with the Spirit - Part 1

Be Filled with the Spirit - Part 2

Be Filled with the Spirit - Part 3

Be Filled with the Spirit - Part 4

Father in heaven, thank you for this day.

Thank you for the blessings upon our minds and hearts and for being here, Father, because we are alive and we are happy and we are beginning this day.

Be with us in this moment in which we are going to study this topic in Jesus' name.

When I was approaching to this topic in the time in which I was a pastor in South America, 1 of the things that caught my attention was that the Tecuztlan movements were very faithful, very passionate with the conviction about having the gifts of tongues.

So I began to go in deep to the topic of speaking in tongues and let me share with you that this is a very critical conviction for them.

However, as I put here, yes, I put it here.

This is the article of faith of the Assemblies of God.

And I know that you took note yesterday, but I am rephrasing because this is a critical point here.

The initial physical evidence of the baptism of the Holy Spirit, The baptism of believers in the Holy Spirit is witnessed by the initial physical sign of speaking with other tongues as the Spirit of God gives them utterance.

Probably what we need to understand here is the rationale behind.

And the rationale behind according to what Bernard Rahn, a theologian, says is this, close to this.

Then then my experience is true That is the kind of synergism that you are going to find out.

Connecting the Bible but based upon this Experience So the foundation of the rationale here it is question is is biblical or You understand the points I You understand the points I Have an experience my experience is in the Bible then my experience is true so when you go through the experience as the foundation let me share with you clearly that you are going to be in troubles because that is not the Bible is upon the experience that is close or is similar to the Bible but is not the Bible itself the point here.

So that is a critical point that we need to take in account regarding this.

The other thing that is convenient to share with you these days Is the whole Bible affected with the concept of glossodalia?

Look for glossodalia in the Old Testament Give me 1 example in which you are going to find out that is a kind of commandment given by the Lord, telling well those who are going to sign as a sign that the Holy Spirit is in them is because they speak in tongues.

Look for the whole critical view in the Old Testament.

So here starts to happen a kind of suspicious thinking regarding the topic Is this a God-requested manifestation upon the human behavior or is a kind of institutional requirement coming as a request to the followers of that movement.

And I mean, while you think, let me share with you a couple of quotations of some sources that I've been sharing with you before.

The other thing, by the way, the third thing, is this.

Glossolalia is not something exclusive from the Pentecostal.

Let me tell you that there are manifestations of glossodalia in demonic worship, in occultism, in pagan religions.

So if the experience is the background, that is a problem, because here we are going to enter into a very deep waters regarding the topic of that.

Gerard Hassel, by the way, in his book, mentions that shamans talk to the tsar's spirits in a sacred language.

And Carlin Mayer mentions that in Malaysia, Indonesia, Siberia, Arctic regions, China, Japan, Korea, Arabia, Burma and many other places, this is a kind of manifestations in local kind of worships.

In dealing, and I put this in this book that I gave them, the bibliography, you can already hear in other sources, reaching and winning Pentecostals.

A former Pentecostal charismatic movement said, I must confess that in my case, as in the experience of other people, we invented a sequence of phonetic sounds with the purpose of not being asked if we have received the Holy Spirit.

We did this because in my church there was a kind of internal hierarchy.

There were those who received the Holy Spirit, the good ones, and those who didn't, that were exposed to receive a divine retribution.

Remember John Kiddall I mentioned yesterday?

Psychology of speaking in tongues and I am here with a search not all glossolalia appears directed by the Holy Spirit he mentions that but much by a desire to be accepted by congregations where the gift is held in esteem.

Not all Rosalia yes, John Kida John Kida the psychology of speaking in tongues This is the book and he says, not all glossolalia appears directed by the Holy Spirit, but much by a desire to be accepted by congregations where the peace is held in esteem.

I put this in the book in Spanish and I did a translation I am quoting from that here.

I had a conversation with somebody that says that yes, was speaking in tongues.

So the first question was, do you understand what you are saying when speaking in tongues?

The answer was no I don't understand it if you don't understand what you say what then is the purpose and meaning of practicing it?

Well even though I don't understand it God does and he understands it very well.

Don't you believe, my next question was, that God understands Spanish or English too?

Okay, don't you think that it could be better that we speak to God in a way, in a language in which He understands and we understand so we fulfill the circle of the communication.

Remember, circle of communication, yes, okay?

But when I speak about the circle of communication, means that the speaker and auditorium, there are understanding, and this is closing, the speaker is conveying a message, the auditorium or the other person is understanding and is answering back and this is the circle of the communication.

So here, technically speaking, there is no fullness of the circle of communication because there is a problem in connecting back about the meaning of the thing.

And I am not demeriting, just describing the process.

You told me that you have the ability to speak in tongues or languages, did you?

Can you reproduce any sound similar to those involved in your speaking tones?

Could it be something like, zunda, tanta, danda, la, la, la, hunda?

The person say, well something like that the question is what why do you think that is a language well I don't know I only experienced that and expressively.

Any formal language has some rules, structure, vocabulary.

It has nouns, articles, adjectives, and of course verbs that describe the actions, the facts, the time, idea involved.

Do you know when you are saying a verb, an article, or a noun?

I know that some people laugh about that, but the critical question is that.

Then, how do you know that it's a language?

And the person asked me, okay, if it is not a language, what it is?

And said, it's a noise that is not a language.

There is no structure in a linguistic setting.

So when you are pronouncing unintelligible things that is not linguistic structure conception, it's a noise.

It is sometimes painful, difficult to understand or accept, but it's the perception regarding the topic.

So that is for me the critical point here when you go and I invite you to go now and open your Bible in 2 chapters Acts and 1st Corinthians 14 because for some reason for some reason you are going to find out that those things are in the Bible and let me tell you something, it is very clear for me that is a big difference in here and here.

Here in the book of Acts the people was blessed because they were in knowledge about what were the good news of salvation.

The author is going to be very critical because you're going to find out that for the first time a gift of the Lord or the Spirit is beginning to be a problem in the church.

So to the point in which the Apostle Paul began to think how he as a leader abroad for the writing from Ephesus to the church in Corinth to teach them how to compose, how to deal, how to behave in the congregation because the gift of tongues was beginning to be a problem in the congregation and it's very clear about that because if you go to the first Corinthians see the structure of the beast watch first chapter second and third He's dealing with divisions in the church This is going to tell you something In chapter 4 time he's dealing with discipline in the church In chapters 6 and 7 he's dealing with certain troubles in the administration.

7 is about marriage and the problem of marriage in the Church.

Series

Be Filled with the Spirit

Be Filled with the Spirit - Part 2

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Parent Series

Parent Conference

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Recorded

What Jesus Said

11. Holy Spirit Baptism

1h

The Parables

The Wheat and the Tares

41m

A More Excellent Way

A More Excellent Way Part 2

37m

Unlocking the Mysteries of the Sanctuary

05 The Golden Lampstand

1h

Why Jesus Waits

1h 7m

Be Filled with the Spirit

Be Filled with the Spirit - Part 3

1h 6m

Mark Finley: Empowered by the Spirit

Strange Fire on Church Altars

1h 11m

WYC 2012 Morning Devotional

Fruits and Gifts, Part 3

48m

Plenary

1 + 1 = 1

57m

Prophetic Faith

Prophetic Faith in Revelation- Part 2

1h 13m

WYC 2012 Morning Devotional

Fruits and Gifts, Part 4

41m

Plenaries with Norman McNulty

Adventism and the Vindication of God

53m

Sound Doctrine