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Michigan Conference of Seventh-day Adventists

Godhead Questions and Answers

Daniel Scarone

Godhead Questions and Answers- Part 1

Godhead Questions and Answers- Part 2

Pioneers and the Trinity- Part 2

Well, normally this presentation has to do with questions and answers that were made in the morning regarding the topic of the Trinity.

And I'm going to mention today in the morning I made a presentation regarding certain topics And there was a quotation of Ellen G.

White that I use in the morning that is, deity did not die, humanity did.

And the gentleman that left a few moments ago asked me where it was.

And I didn't put that in the notes today.

And normally I am dealing, and please I'm going to say something because I don't want to permit, I cannot permit today what happened yesterday.

And that is, this is a seminar oriented or given for Seventh-day Adventist members that believe in the 28 fundamental beliefs.

So if you don't, please, I don't know if I'm going to enter into a dispute or into a war regarding this, but I do believe in the 28 fundamental beliefs.

And besides that fact, this is oriented to give instrument to those who are bringing some troubles into the church, denying doctrines or fundamental doctrines in the church and we are under attack in this moment.

Let me share with you that we are under attack regarding the creation doctrine, we are under attack regarding the sanctuary doctrine, We are under attack regarding the Sabbath.

That is not, nothing new regarding that, but it is, and we are under attack regarding the divinity of the Lord Jesus, the divinity of the Holy Spirit, and also regarding the topic of the Trinity.

So what I'm going to share with you is my point of view based upon the Bible and the views of the Seventh-day Adventist Church regarding these topics.

So please, if you have any questions, let me share with you that the only moment in which I'm going to have a moment for doing some question and answer is tomorrow in late in the morning in the presentation because this is the only presentation I'm going to make today.

And tomorrow I am going to be flying away to do or start another thing on Friday in another country.

So that is a special moment in these things.

But I'm going to try to deal with some questions that probably are against our view as a church.

And I'm going to do it in a in the best of my respect with differences and so on and with a Christian spirit but I'm going to share with you my view based upon the Bible.

Today in the morning I received a very good and interesting question.

It is based upon the general conference website in which they put a video by, I don't remember the name of the guy, regarding the examples of the Trinity.

And use an egg and base the unity in the idea of the shell, the egg yolk and the egg white and to reflect the unity of that.

I am going to say that when you read the book, and this is not a perfect book, but it's the best that I can share thinking in lay people.

I avoided, if you read the book, some kind of images or comparisons for God or the Trinity.

You know, we cannot compare God with anything.

So I have to confess that I am not feeling good when I saw that film by the general conference.

I didn't say, look, I don't see light in doing this, but I am not sharing in favor of that.

I heard a pastor that used to have credentials with a seven-day Adventist chart comparing the Trinity with humans' functions, like a firm of lawyers, he says in a moment.

I am not going to invite anyone to go into that direction.

We might have differences in the reading, in the understanding, but my advice, my pastoral advice is let's go to the Bible and read the Bible as it is and compare text with text.

There are moments in which the Bible is figurative, symbolic sometimes and we are going to find out in the Bible some reference that are going to enlighten our vision and the Holy Spirit is going to help us in the understanding of that.

Today in the afternoon probably what we are going to do is to share with you some things regarding some points of view.

Yesterday, I received a very, very long question.

And the reference is, I put it here, all of them.

I didn't jump over anything, because I have respect for every person that is making questions here.

And I'm going to refer in general, because I'm going to share with you some of these things.

1 of the questions that I received today in the morning is, how many times the Holy Spirit appears in the Bible in bodily form.

I invite you to open your Bible, and we are going to do probably A lot of exercise, biblical exercise today in doing that.

In Matthew 3.16 and 17, I don't know, Pastor Richardson, could you read that?

And Mark chapter 1, verse 10 and 11, could you read that?

And Luke 3.21 and 22, and Ingo, could you help us?

Acts chapter 2 verses 1 and 2, 3 and 4 and I reserve a comment at the end of that that is regarding Revelation 1 4 yes well simple when you read could you mention the verses again?

And Jesus, when he was baptized, came straight out of the water.

And lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting upon him.

And lo, a voice from heaven sang, this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased.

Well I find that responding to the answer, this is my first perception that is in the in the Bible regarding a kind of bodily comparison of the spirit here.

Because it says, like a dove in verse 16.

Could you, it's the same but under the mark glasses.

And straightway coming out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him.

And there came a voice from heaven saying, thou art my beloved son in whom I am well pleased.

Now when all the people were baptized and when Jesus also had been baptized and was praying, the heavens were opened and the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form like a dove and a voice came from heaven, you are my beloved son, with you I am well pleased.

I totally failed and I'm the 1 that asked for it.

When the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all in 1 accord in 1 place.

And suddenly There came a sound from heaven as of a rushing, mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.

And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.

And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost and began to speak with other tongues as the Spirit gave them to you." Thank you.

The first 3 mentions, that is the synoptics they call.

That is the book of Mark and Luke, use bodily comparison.

The word appearing in the book of Luke, it doesn't appear in the Book of Mark, but says in the Book of Mark like a dove, like a dove is expression.

And the difference in between is that in the case of the Book of Acts, appears like in a form, but it's not a body.

You know, it's the kind of flames that appear.

So of course, The other that I do have is questionable, and I don't know if I am going to share, but I put it in my notes, and I'm going to share with you Because it is clearly perceivable by the author, that is, John, the book of Revelation chapter 1 and verse 4.

And I put in with a note here, and John says, John to the 7 churches which are in Asia, grace be unto you and peace from him which is, and which was, and which is to come, and from the 7 spirits which are before his throne.

In the book of Revelation, the spirit appears in front of the throne.

And that is a kind of description that you are going to find out.

But I will say that the answer to the question, I will say, is based upon Matthew, Mark, Luke, and the book of Acts, certainly.

Opinionated or open to difference of understanding is Revelation 1, 4.

The other question I do have here says, how does the Holy Spirit fits a definition of person, a being with personality, intellect, and will.

Okay, here I, there is a lot, a lot of, of, of verses that I would like to share with you regarding this.

And I guess I touch base this in the book, but my, the book is short in certain sense, but here is a little bit longer.

You know, sometimes editors recommend not to overpass certain amount of pages, and I've been respected about that, but you pay the price that not having certain amount I will say of information once you took that route on.

And let me share with you some things that are for me quite interesting.

For example, the Bible defines or says that the Holy Spirit grieves and is clear in the Bible.

Let me share with you, And do you mind if I ask to you, to the rest of you, the reading, is there any problem?

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Godhead Questions and Answers- Part 2

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